thank you for being here. >> thank you for having us. >> thank you for having us. >> mary, you talk about this as a faith journey. tell me your reason. >> well, i am a christian woman, and my word tells me in order to be forgive that you must forgive. and it is faith. this is what has gotten me to the place where i'm at today, to be able to sit next to oshea and for us to go all over the world sharing our story. >> you know, i have to say when i first heard the story, i had so many mixed emotions, but oshea, i wondered if you feel a sense of responsibility now in how you live your life because the life that you took is that of mary johnson's son. do you have a responsibility to live a good life in his place? >> i wouldn't necessarily say in his place because i can never fill his shoes, but at the same time i do have a responsibility to myself, to make sure i come out here and set the right example because committing my crime, i set the wrong example and see a lot of people following behind those steps. so i have to show that regardless of the past, what i've done, that i can come out here